If This Were a Dream, What Would It Mean?

That is the title of a book loaned to me by Deb’s cousin on my recent vacation. The subtitle is “Discovering the Spiritual Meaning Behind Everyday Events,” and the author is Murray Dueck, who leads a prophetic school in Langley, British Columbia.

Last fall I spent a season of three months recording dreams from the night hours. The idea that God might speak during the day using circumstances was intriguing to me. Twice on our vacation it seemed like circumstances fit what I learned from this book.

On my birthday, June 13, we were driving from Barstow, CA (in the Mojave Desert) to Flagstaff, AZ, where we were looking forward to cooler weather and a special birthday dinner. On this particular day God chose to change my plans – not the only time He did that on the trip. We stopped for lunch in Needles, at a temperature over 100 degrees, and heard a rattle coming from the engine compartment of our VW Passat. We tracked down a mechanic who grew up in Germany, and specialized in German cars. As it turned out, the problem was caused by a trailer safety chain being too tight. My fears of being delayed a day in the desert, and spending money on car repair were replaced by gratitude to God for a simple solution (which is what we had prayed for).

We arrived in Flagstaff too late to have that special dinner. Not only that, but driving around the KOA Kampground our brakes were screeching. Braking a trailer can be hard on brake pads. So, twice in one day, we had apparent car problems. The next morning I took close-up photos of the brake pads, and we drove the the VW dealer less than a mile away. He assured us  it was just dust and the brakes were fine, and told us how to burnish the pads. That makes two possibly expensive car repairs that turned out to be nothing.

But the best part of my surprise birthday was two emails I received the evening we arrived. Both were from former employees who are talking with us about about future involvement in our company. Both of them left our company to take jobs with Microsoft, and are exceptional resources. I had pretty much given up on hearing from them. But to my surprise, after unpacking my computer in the campground, there were emails from *both* of them, and both were very positive. Wow – God knows how to give nice birthday presents.

In light of the “If this were a dream” book, I began to ponder these circumstances. Then I realized that I was in a city called Flagstaff. A flag can be used to give a signal, and the city we were staying in was the “pole” that was used to hold the flag.

Here is the outline of questions offered by Murray Dueck, drawing on the story of the apostle Peter in Acts 10, where he has a vision of a sheet with unclean animals.

  • If this were a dream, what would it mean?
  • Do you see any evidence of colloquialisms or wordplay?
  • Is there a connection between the symbolic events and events in your church, community, nation or the world at large?
  • Do you see evidence of divine timing?
  • Do events correspond with any significant dates, such as holidays, celebrations, or anniversaries?
  • Do you notice any significant numbers?
  • How do these events correspond to symbolic language in the Bible?
  • Is there evidence of a paradigm-shift, particularly from pride to humility, in the people involved?
  • Can you organize these events into a prophetic timeline?
  • How does God want you to respond?
Perhaps my understanding is too simple, but it seems obvious to me that God was demonstrating his ability to take care of everything in my life, from the small things, like car trouble in the desert, to the big things, the future of our business. All of this was on my 62nd birthday, in a city named flag-staff.

Ten days later on our trip God did it again. We were in Estes Park, CO, high in the mountains next to Rocky Mountain National Park. Staying in Estes Park had not even been on our original itinerary, but God changed our plans again, and we ended up staying four nights, longer than we stayed in one place anywhere else on our trip. Thursday, June 23rd was intended to be a day to relax, and we went into town from our campground primarily to have lunch and take a walk on the riverwalk. (See the next post for photos and narrative.)

After enjoying dinner the previous evening at Mama Rose’s, we had decided to eat at a restaurant called Poppy’s. As we opened the door to enter the restaurant, we thought we recognized some folks we have known for 12 years, from Pittsburg, KS — Doug and Denise Kreighbaum and their daughter. Doug is the apostolic leader of a network of churches in the midwest. They were as surprised as we were. We exchanged greetings and hugs, found out they were camping for a week in Rocky Mountain National Park, and went our ways. The chances of an encounter like this are one in a million.

Later, I wondered, “if this were a dream, what would it mean?” Apostles are considered fathers. We were entering a restaurant named “father” at the precise moment Doug was leaving. I certainly would not assume these circumstances are saying anything about Doug, but I wonder what they mean for us.

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West Coast 2011 – Part 5 (Estes Park)

Estes Park is still Colorado, but nothing like Manitou Springs or Dolores, our earlier stopping points. For us, Estes Park rates right up there with the best parts of this amazing trip. We had not originally planned to stay more than an afternoon here, but God is a better trip planner than me, and we ended up spending four days here.

Certainly one highlight was Rocky Mountain National Park. We drove past the treeline (where it’s too cold for trees to grow), and stopped at the Alpine Visitor Center before heading back. On the way down, I asked someone with a nice camera to take a photo.

Although the grandeur of the Park is incredible, we also enjoyed the riverwalk in Estes Park. Initially a friend, Rob Colwill, proposed meeting us there for coffee and lunch. One day was not enough. We returned the next day for dinner at Mama Rose’s, the day after for lunch at Poppy’s, and the last day, for lunch at Mama Rose’s. Every meal was outstanding, and we can be discriminating when we want to be. Here is a view of the riverwalk that includes both restaurants, plus a photo of us to prove we were there!

We camped on the edge of town, and I think we had the best view of any of the campgrounds in town. Of course if you reserve ahead, you can camp in the National Park. We met a family that was doing just that – Doug and Denise Kreighbaum, from Pittsburg, Kansas, whom we have known for 12 years. They were coming out of  Poppy’s at the precise moment we were going in. That’s one in a million. Wow.

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West Coast Trip – Part 4 (Colorado)

For years our friends have been urging us to visit Colorado. Finally we made it. Although my favorite part has been camping on the Dolores River in the San Juan Mountains of southwest Colorado, there is no question that dazzling scenery is plentiful.

Near Colorado Springs is a small city named Manitou Springs. Deb enjoyed tasting the several flavors of water that come bubbling up from the ground. But our favorite spots to visit were the cliff dwellings, and the Garden of the Gods, both within five minutes of town. Here are the cliff dwellings, which are under private ownership but very well managed.

What they call the Garden of the Gods for us displays the incredible creativity of our God. As the Rocky Mountains pushed up, some of the sedimentary rock layers got tilted. This is a Colorado Springs city park and free to visit. There are several hiking trails, and many foto ops.

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West Coast Trip 2011 – Part 3

We’ve been on the road in our Scamp for over four weeks. Wow. We are blessed to be able to be gone so long. Everyone at the office is covering the bases, and Libby is holding down the fort at home.

Last weekend included a rendezvous with Jon at Yosemite National Park. We dry camped Friday night on the Wawona River for $20, and stayed the next night at the Wawona Hotel for $160 a room. I liked it more in our Scamp on the river. Here are Jon and Mom at lunch.

Yosemite Valley is extraordinary, which leads to traffic jams in the summer. My favorite view was leaving the valley, heading to Wawona.

After saying goodbye to Jon, we headed for the Mohave Desert, spending the night at Barstow. The next day was my birthday, and we celebrated by having apparent car trouble in Needles, California, at 105 degrees. We heard what sounded like a tin can rattling from the engine compartment, and tracked down a German mechanic nearby (who had grown up in Germany and knew his stuff). As soon as we unhitched the trailer the rattle went away – the safety chain was too tight. We still arrived well before dark at Flagstaff, Arizona, 7,000 feet above sea level, which offered a welcome relief from the heat. The next day we visited Lowell Observatory, where they discovered Pluto in the 1930s.

It was time to return to the desert, this time the Navajo reservation where I spent some time as a child (my dad served the Presbyterian Church in Kayenta). After the obligatory stop and photo shot at Four Corners (where UT, AZ, NM and CO meet), we reached the forested mountains of southwestern Colorado. I had a reservation at Priest Gulch RV Park on the San Juan Mountain Scenic Byway. Here is our campsite, right on the river. It was so gorgeous we stayed an extra day.

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Wind-driven church planting


When I first started this blog almost six years ago, I tended to alternate between commentary on church life and pictures of our travels. For the last 18 months I have neglected to post anything on personal and corporate life in Christ. To say why would involve a long and personal conversation.

While in British Columbia on vacation, Deb and I visited her cousin, Steve Schroeder, a leader in the Canadian Christian Ministers Association. He and his wife Silvia hosted us in their home, and our conversation lingered late into the evening, only to be renewed over breakfast and on into the afternoon.

When Steve asked my thoughts on church planting, I commented on the Salt & Light model of starting new churches with two couples, one older and one younger. Then I thought a moment, and suggested there might be a difference between planting a church by intention, and planting a wind-driven church.

So, what does a wind-driven church look like? In this context I believe the seed is us: believers willing to go where the Spirit sends us. See John 12:24 and John 3:8.

In one sense, we are wind-driven to live and worship in a particular community. In another sense, we are wind-driven to encounter various people in our daily walk, and share with them our life in Christ. In each sense, we carry within us the seed of the Kingdom (see Matthew 13 for illustrations).

As much as I would be happy to be involved in a church plant as conventionally understood, I think God is calling us increasingly to wind-driven church planting.

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West Coast 2011 – Part 2

We are two weeks out, after spending most of the past week visiting Deb’s family in southern British Columbia. Deb’s Dad is home from the hospital and doing well, and we went to a local coffeehouse to hear our niece, Christine, play a solo gig. She did a great job. We paused for a day to visit Deb’s cousin, Steve Schroeder, who is in leadership at the Christian Ministers Association of Canada, and enjoyed hour after hour of stimulating dialog on the church and our life in Christ.

At the suggestion of Deb’s brother, we camped in Oliver, BC, near the U.S. Here is the view from our campsite, almost on the beach.

After crossing the border, we paused in Chelan and Wenatchee to enjoy the spectacular terrain. Then it was south to camp at a state park on the Columbia River. Nearby is a well known winery named Maryhill, so we stopped for a sample and a chance to relax on their terrace.

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West Coast 2011 – Part 1

This is our 3rd year to trek to the West Coast, partly to see Deb’s family in BC, but also because we love the mountains. We stopped enroute to visit our friends the Swants, who moved to Billings from Mankato. Our last evening we enjoyed pizza and mini-golf at the Billings KOA (the 1st KOA in the country).

After lingering on the east side of the Cascades for a couple of days, we traveled up and over the northernmost route, Washington 20. The pass is about 5500 feet, compared to 3000 feet for I-90, so we encountered some real snow beside the road. It was 38 degrees, and there were slight flurries in the air. We experienced winter and spring in one day.

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